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Steve Bentley
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Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@SubCulture MEDIA I would be really interested to see what Turnitin's AI report makes of a piece of your writing before and after Grammarly "cleans it up".
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
1 yr ago
1
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Ahmed Al-Alousi An interesting take and I agree with quite a lot of what you say. But I wonder on the point about being a load bearing relief pillar if actually staff under the strain of workloads…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
1 yr ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Carol Bailey you would be surprised - some courses (eg Pharmacy) do expect students to wear smart attire for classes
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
1 yr ago
1
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: Grammarly & Turnitin.com's AI score
@Marjorie Pereira I know this is an old post, but this is incorrect, it just guesses. And certainly in my institution pasting a student's work into GPT would breach the student's IP rights.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
1 yr ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Emma Duke-Williams I don't think we define it absolutely, but we can rely on a dictionary definition that a phrase has to be shorter than a sentence.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
1 yr ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Karen Smith But with respect, your FAQ also says you have a 1% false positive rate, which I don't think anybody who has used the tool would believe.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
1 yr ago
1
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
We have gone for a different take on this, having realised that our existing policy on the use of (human) proof readers wouldn't allow them to rewrite sections of a student's work,…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
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Re: Grammarly & Turnitin.com's AI score
@simchi marak Turnitin themselves say that an AI score of 20% or lower is highly likely to be a false positive, so I wouldn't be concerned. There are certainly points about Grammarly which need to be…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
1
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: Grammarly & Turnitin.com's AI score
@simchi marak But the fact is that you are asking a system which does not know how to distinguish between human written and AI written material, you may as well toss a coin.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: Grammarly & Turnitin.com's AI score
@simchi marak I think it's been pretty well proven that ChatGPT can't accurately detect whether text was AI produced or not.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@CyberSecNB Cyber Security The "basic free version" includes Grammarly Go, which is ChatGPT in disguise, so you need to be very precise about which functionality the student has used.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
1
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Hamza Proviotech I think that's a question that somebody from Turnitin would be better placed to comment on than me. I haven't seen any change in the reports since 7th December,…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@ren casey As I understand it, Grammarly Go's GenAI is powered by ChatGPT, so the same rules and policies would apply, I would have thought. I know we have written our policies and guidance not to…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Esther Jubb Potentially yes, but who knows as the detection tool doesn't show its working.
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
Hi @Gill Rowell just to support Malik's comment, the concern is about avoiding false positive detections where tools like Quillbot and Grammarly have been used to improve a student's authentic…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Karen Smith We're taking a view that the AI report alone is not sufficient to have that conversation. A "magic number" and no way to explain how that number has been reached is not a good basis to…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
1
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Gill Rowell Hi Gill, I think there's a bit of confusion here: Grammarly has THREE services. Free: Basic flagging of errors for the user to fix themselves Paid:…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Purna Bose Thanks for that clarification. Can I confirm that your testing includes both the free tier of Grammarly and the paid-for product that has a "rewrite my sentence" feature?…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Annelize McKay It's worth confirming precisely which part of Grammarly the student used - if it was GrammarlyGo, that's their answer to ChatGPT. If a student uses Grammarly's rewriting features (in…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: AI Detection and Grammarly
@Paul Rittman I think this is part of the problem, that Grammarly has multiple services, some only available to paid accounts. Free accounts, as I understand it, offer suggestions,…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: Turnitin’s AI writing detection capabilities : paraphrasing tools vs Gen AI tools
Edit: looks like there is already a substantial thread about this AI Detection and Grammarly - AI Writing & Pedagogy - Turnitin Educator Network (forumbee.…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
2 yrs ago
AI & Emerging Tech in Higher Ed
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Re: Similarity matched to student essay but is a public webpage
This has been an ongoing problem for us as we publish successful PhD theses on an open access repository. When work submitted matches against one of these,…
Steve Bentley
Turnitin Admin, University of Huddersfield, UK
s_d_bentley
3 yrs ago
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