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I do not see the late penalties kicking in-there is no time stamp syncing to Canvas speedgrader. It seems the score syncs but Canvas doesn't recognize it as a "submission" with a time stamp. I understand we can evaluate in turnitin & use the rubrics & comments there-I haven't figured out yet what students can see or how they can see it.
I have a team teacher who used to be able to sign into Canvas & help evaluate papers but he can no longer do this since the turnitin is under my id. is there a way to assign a co-teacher to see the papers?
It would be nice to see a peermark as an assignment that links/syncs to Canvas as a grade. I would like the % complete to show in the expanded view so I could easily identify students who are not revising much
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Good Afternoon! In an LTI 1.3 integration assignment, the submission does not show in Speedgrader. Instead, to access the submissions, you would do that through the LTI inbox. For more information, please refer to this guide.
We are working with Canvas to provide a submission icon in the gradebook to let you know a submission has been made there and we are also working with them to be able to launch an individual student submission in the Turnitin document viewer directly from the gradebook.
Any co-teachers (or TAs) that are enrolled in a Canvas course where Turnitin has been enabled for an assignment will be able to see the student submission, evaluate the similarity report, and grade it. If you are having difficulty with this, please contact your Turnitin account representative for assistance.
Thank you for your improvement suggestion for PeerMark. We will be looking at PeerMark improvements soon and will certainly keep this suggestion in mind.
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Stephanie Stocks Thank you. I noticed that the feedback release date is being set as the due date in Canvas rather than the due date
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Elysabeth San Martin Unfortunately, I cannot replicate that issue. The feedback release date in the creation of an LTI 1.3 assignment is automatically set to 7 days after the creation of the assignment. The due date is also set to 7 days after the creation of the assignment. I can adjust both of these as needed. The due date is what is passed to Canvas. See the attached file for screenshots.
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Stephanie Stocks the biggest ongoing problem for me has been the late penalties. Either turnitin should implement a late penalty function or post submission times to Canvas so their late penalties can kick in. I still can’t get my team teacher to be able to see assignments.
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Past reports do not seem to be accessible with the new 1.3 version unless I turn on the old version and run both at the same time. It doesn't seem like the information has merged with the new LTI from the previous version.
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Martin Kollman Good Morning! Reports for LTI 1.1 assignments should be available once lti 1.3 is made available and lti 1.1 has been deleted. Can you verify that these are the steps that the LMS/Turnitin admin have taken? https://help.turnitin.com/feedback-studio/canvas/lti13/administrator/administrator-migration-faq.htm#what-do-we-need-to-do-first-as-an-lms-administrator
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Please help me to understand how teachers are notified of submissions and how grading information, including feedback, is added to the Canvas grade book for a TII-enabled assignment if "Student submissions will not show in Speedgrader nor will a submission icon or report score icon show in the Canvas Gradebook. Because student submissions will not show in Speedgrader, instructors cannot use Canvas rubrics to grade LTI 1.3 assignments nor can they use Speedgrader to provide feedback to submissions. In addition, neither a submission icon or report score icon will show in the Canvas gradebook." Is this functionality on the product roadmap? Maybe I do not understand this process; 1.3 may be a tough sell without parity to 1.1. Thanks.
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Laura Clark Good Afternoon! We are working with Canvas to make sure a submission icon shows in the gradebook for an lti 1.3 assignment. You can also see who has submitted and who has not via the Turnitin inbox. As for grading, all grading and feedback is expected to go through FeedBack Studio and the grade given there will pass back to the Canvas gradebook automatically. If an instructor wants to use Speedgrader and Canvas rubrics to grade for an assignment, they should be using the Plagiarism Framework integration instead. This provides a Similarity report only, all feedback and grading is expected to go through Speedgrader. Both the LTI 1.3 and Plagiarism Framework integrations can be run along side each other in the same Canvas instance and the instructor has choice for how much or how little they want to use Turnitin. For a quick comparison of the integrations and their features, please refer to this chart - https://help.turnitin.com/feedback-studio/canvas/plagiarism-framework/external-tool-vs-plagiarism-framework.htm.
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Laura Clark I was able to load my rubrics to turnitin, so my students were able to click on their essay & see my feedback that way.
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Elysabeth San Martin Laura Clark
Would Canvas observers (parents, support teachers, etc) be able to preview the rubric before a submission is made by the student and after the teacher marks on the rubric and adds any comments in Turnitin?
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Joe F Good Morning! I do want to let you know that we do not recommend using Turnitin through the Canvas app as it is not supported. However, we are looking into expanding roles that we would recognize to assist with Canvas roles such as observers and parents.
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Stephanie
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Stephanie Stocks Many of our teachers score assignments using the Canvas app on their iPad. Students also use it on their phones to check assignment scores and feedback.
If Canvas observer accounts do not have access to Turnitin rubrics/feedback then this would prohibit us from moving forward with LTI1.3 integration.
I think Turnitin has made a significant error here in their design.
We’ve made the decision to not migrate from 1.1 to 1.3.
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Joe F I will be sure to send your thoughts to upper management. Please remember that there is no hard deadline to move from LTI 1.1 to LTI 1.3 currently and adding additional roles is definitely being explored now.
Stephanie
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Stephanie Stocks If an instructor prefers the grading functionality of using QuickMarks via the TurnItIn LTI but uses the Canvas rubric so that outcomes can be reported for institutional requirements, this might be hard to get faculty and institutional buy in. I would hate to not have the LTI available at all and just use the Plagiarism Framework integration instead for all of our courses.
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mary. speight Just to let you know, I did share your thoughts with upper management.
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Hi team! When trying to migrate from LTI 1.1 to 1.3 on our Canvas test environment, I encountered an error when trying to load the dummy assignment after creating it. Would just like to share this as shared knowledge as we are aware that the engineers from Turnitin are currently working with Canvas to fix this issue, and we are not the only institution who are experiencing this issue when trying to configure LTI 1.3 on the Canvas test environment. Thanks!
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Benjamin Ng
I experienced the same issue. The answer I was given (at the time) was to do the config in our Canvas Production environment. Not a solution as far as I am concerned. I never roll out anything in Production until fully vetted and tested in either Test or Beta.
Maybe someone at Turnitin can verify that Test is still not viable? And, if not, when it will be viable. I"m sad, but glad, I'm not alone.
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Hi Gayle and Benjamin ,
We appreciate you highlighting this issue. Our engineers are still investigating this issue and the viability of the test, but we will share out what they find as soon as they have an answer.
Thanks for you patience!
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Benjamin Ng Gayle Wilson Good Morning! This issue has now been resolved. Turnitin LTI 1.3 can be integrated into test/beta environments. The directions for that are found here - https://help.turnitin.com/feedback-studio/canvas/lti13/administrator/getting-started/configuring-turnitin-canvas-test-beta.htm
The directions for integrating it into production are found here - https://help.turnitin.com/feedback-studio/canvas/lti13/administrator/getting-started/configuring-turnitin-canvas-hosted.htm
Please note that they are not the same directions. Test and beta environments require you to create a develop key manually while production has a global registration key.
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Stephanie
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Stephanie Stocks I received this error on our production instance.
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mary. speight you are receiving an unable to create a line item error? I see this normally when clients have tested lti 1.3 in beta or test and then try to set up lti 1.3 in production using the same account id they used in test/beta. Is that what is happening here?
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Stephanie Stocks No, I didn't test the integration first. I used the inherited dev key to install.
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mary. speight and was this working previously and now it is not?
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Stephanie Stocks I just added it today. Is there a lag time?
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mary. speight To clarify, you installed LTI 1.3 in your production Canvas environment using the inherited key directions? If so, please submit a ticket to Turnitin Support that details the steps you took, your account information (including the account number you tried to configure to), and where in the process this error occurred. Be sure to copy your Account rep on the email. That way we can do a deeper dive into your account.
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Good Morning! I wanted to put this here just in case there is anyone that is interested, but may not have gotten the email. We are hosting a webinar on June 13 at 11est for Canvas admins focusing specifically on Migration Support. To register for this event, please click here. Hope to see you there!
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I'm looking for any documentation for teachers on using 1.3 to create assignments. Have those docs or videos been created and if so, how do we access? Thank you.
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Hi Jay , I liked out our help guide for creating assignments below. Let us know if it's helpful. Thanks!
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Super helpful. Thanks so much!
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Where can I find the list of features that are being added to the LTI 1.3 tool?
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Annie Wojcik Good Morning! We are putting together a public facing roadmap of upcoming features now. When it is ready, I can always post it here as well.
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Hi, I have reached out to both my sales rep and Turnitin Product Support and neither will tell me if I need to take any action regarding my configuration. How can I get someone to help me? This is really frustrating.
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Rebecca Penina Simon Good Morning! I am sorry for the delay as I have been out of the office. I would recommend reaching out to your account manager for assistance. Can you tell me what institution you are from so I can assist with that? When you move to LTI 1.3 from LTI 1.1 is entirely up to your institution. In addition, this migration affects only the LTI 1.1 integration, not the plagiarism framework integration. This FAQ guide might help you with your questions though - https://help.turnitin.com/feedback-studio/canvas/lti13/administrator/administrator-migration-faq.htm
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The documentation says it's not currently recommended for Blueprint courses. What is the issue that the blueprint is causing? Do the assignments just not work at all, or are there settings that don't transfer over?
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mary. speight Settings do not transfer over so LTI 1.3 is not currently recommended with Blueprint courses. Was this what you were testing the integration on? Have you tried to create a brand new assignment?
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Stephanie Stocks No, this is not what I was testing. This was just a general question so we can answer our faculty members' questions about blueprints.
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mary. speight Just checking. I will have your Implementation Consultant reach out to you.
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My teachers really like to use Speedgrader so that parents are able to see feedback in Canvas. This means we are using the plagiarism checker option with Turnitin 1.3. We do not see a way to preload a document so that it will not be part of the similarity check. Also, we don't see where to turn on AI detection with this route. I see that Canvas is certified with 1.3, so we thought all these options would work with 1.3. Am I not seeing all the options or are we doing something incorrectly? Thank you!!
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Kimberly Thompson
Kimberly,
Good Afternoon! If you prefer to use the speedgrader workflow for visibility to parents and to provide feedback to students, we recommend using the Plagiarism Framework integration workflow instead of the LTI 1.3 integration workflow. While the plagiarism framework integration does not have a template exclusion option, it does allow for AI detection which can be accessed when you open the report from speedgrader. It may be easier to compare the integrations and their functions using this chart. If your school does not already have Plagiarism Framework integration installed, you might want to reach out to your Canvas admin to ask about it. In addition, here are the instructor guides for quick reference. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
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Stephanie Stocks Thank you for this information. We already have the plagiarism framework set up. If I can vote for the template exclusion to become available along with the plagiarism framework, please let me know where. I will take a look at the guides to see how to use the AI detection. I appreciate it!
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Kimberly Thompson We are in the same situation in my school. Turnitin made a significant strategic error in how they developed the LTI 1.3 tool, in my opinion.
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Kimberly Thompson If you are interested in how to integrate AI writing into your institutional policy, this webinar may be of interest to you.
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I copied my Canvas course from last semester, including 58 Turnitin assignments. I previously used Feedback Studio, not Speedgrader, to do all my grading and give feedback, so I was told basically nothing would change. However, after 2.5 weeks of escalating problems, the only "solution" IT has offered is for me to re-create all 58 assignments (and fix about 125 links to those assignments in my Canvas courses).
However, the class has already started, and students have already submitted a draft to a PeerMark assignment. Since they are unable to see my Turnitin feedback on a previous assignment -- they don't get the embedded Turnitin window in the Canvas assignment (see attachment) -- I'm anticipating they won't be able to access the PeerMark assignment, either. Here's my question: Can I give them the class ID and enrollment key and have them complete the PeerMark assignment via Turnitin.com? My worry is that they are already enrolled in the course via Canvas, so I don't want them to create NEW accounts as they won't be able to access their Canvas submission. Do I tell them to use their college email and do a "forgot password" change on Turnitin.com? Will that change their ability to access via Canvas later or mess up their NetID (college login and password for Canvas, Outlook, etc.)? Please help!
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Jana Bielecki Good Morning! In your screenshot, it does not look like a Turnitin LTI 1.3 assignment (I can see no LTI inbox). It looks like a plagiarism framework enabled assignment. I will message the account manager and Implementation Consultant for the school. They will reach out to you for troubleshooting assistance.
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Stephanie Stocks Thanks for the reply, but I already submitted a ticket, and Turnitin and my college's Turnitin person have been working on the problem for nearly three weeks.
It was a Turnitin assignment in a previous course. I copied the course in Canvas, and all the assignments were supposed to operate as usual because I always used Turnitin, not Speedgrader, for grading. The students were able to submit their assignments through the embedded Turnitin LTI window in the Canvas assignment as usual, and I graded them in Turnitin as usual. The problem is that the graded assignment does not connect back to Canvas correctly. It shows up as a new submission (making it late in Canvas), and students can no longer see the LTI inbox. I can, but they can't, so they can't access my feedback. I'm hoping that the ticket that's already being worked on will eventually resolve this problem.
In the meantime, I have a related question about passwords. One student who'd used Turnitin in a previous class asked if she could have the course ID and enrollment key to access her feedback via Turnitin.com since the LTI window isn't showing in Canvas. I gave them to her, and she tried to login but had to change her password. Before I suggest this "fix" to all my classes, I'm wondering if her changing the password will have any effect on her ability to access Turnitin assignments in Canvas since students use their NetID (single password to login to email, Canvas, library, etc.). Also, if students have never used Turnitin before, will they need to create a Turnitin account and add the course with the ID and enrollment key, or do they already have an account because they submitted the assignment via Canvas?
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Jana Bielecki Good Morning! I believe your Implementation Consultant has already reached out to you regarding your question. Please let us know if you have any others. Have a great day!
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