Diane Mulligan I can imagine this is very frustrating! Do you find the ability to "star" your frequently used rubrics helps any?

Gill Rowell I did not find that feature. We use Blackbaud, not Canvas, and as far as I can tell there is no way to star a rubric, in our LMS or in turnitin.

Diane Mulligan I'm not sure if this functionality is available via Blackboard, you would need to contact the Support team for confirmation.

 Gill Rowell   I also cannot see the ability to "star" favorite rubrics.  I did see this "delete rubric" option but it is not activated.  Why?  When can it be activated or at least allow an archive function to hide all these not defunct and useless rubrics?

Wendy Arch I think you'll find that the delete is only not greyed out when you've set up a rubric & have never used it, even for testing. That's why I'd argue that 'archive', once it's had some usage,  is better, it's out of your sight, but it's still available if students look at older work, someone needs to refer back to it etc. 

Donnie C I have passed your concerns on to our Product Manager and unfortunately there are no immediate plans to change this functionality. However in the long term we are working on new grading workflows which will provide a lot more flexibility.

Gill Rowell If there are no plans to add an archive function, then why is there an inactive "delete rubric" option in the library menu?  

Tommy Romano Thank you for your feedback. I will certainly pass on to our Product Manager.

Shannon Juhan I appreciate this is frustrating for you, and I have once again passed your concerns on to our Product Manager. We are working on new grading workflows which will provide  more flexibility and I really hope your feedback will be taken on board.

Gill Rowell could you please give us an update on this? My institution has just started using Turnitin and I have been creating trial rubrics for different assessment to assess functionality-I had no idea that each iteration could not be deleted which is somewhat ridiculous given that there is a "Delete this rubric" option present in the menu! Neither it seems can a rubric be edited (same issue with greyed out option) so any test is forced to create a new one; surely this makes no sense for the application's file management let alone the user experience?

Gareth James I completely understand your frustration. I spoke to our Product Manager about this earlier this week, she told me tells me that whilst we won't be making any changes to rubric and QM management today, we will be making updates to both when we start to introduce the new essay experience.

Gill Rowell Thank you for the prompt response-when will the new essay experience be introduced? 

Gareth James I thought that might be your next question, and I'm trying to get a rough date for you.

Gareth James Having spoken to our Product Manager, I think realistically we are looking at 2022 for this.

Gill Rowell thank you for the honest reply, but it does little to give confidence that the concerns that   Donnie C , Shannon Juhan, Diane Mulligan  and others have been clearly expressing for years are taken seriously. It fundamentally impacts on our productivity and willingness to try and refresh our teaching and assessment, which given the capabilities of the application elsewhere is a crying shame, but then as we are users, not decision making customers, there is nothing we can do-it is very disappointing.

Gill Rowell Almost half a year has passed. When can we have the new feature where we can delete the old rubrics?  It is really frustrating.  I have detached the rubrics from all the old assignments.  I still can't delete the rubrics.

To be fair to our colleague, it's been well and truly over half a year. I believe it's been several full years. It seems as though this option has been given up on. Gill Rowell - Have the engineers outlined why it's such a difficult feature to implement?

Matt Bartlett I agree, this has been asked for for years. I wonder, though, if Frankie is referring to Gill's earlier comment of "2022" - when it's (scarily) already over 1/3 gone. :( 

Also, thinking about it from the longer term & students accessing older assignments (which we allow students to do till they leave); I'd prefer the older rubrics to be archived, so they're accessible should they be needed - but also retained in the way they were used at the time, so there are no discrepancies going forward. 

Emma Duke-Williams I agree there would have to be some kind of archiving system. Honestly even just a folder/subfolder, or some other way of categorizing would do the job. It seems as though the product development team has some reason to believe that competitors (Canvas, perhaps) won't make similar quality of life changes to the product.